virginity tests in Georgia NOT usa !

[fitherin]

Just watched a news item of girls in Georgia being taken for virginity tests before being allowed to marry.
I TOTALY disagree with this practice as it is demeaning for the girls in every way. There body is there own business and no one elses.
SPEAK up if you agree.

[virginitysaving]

Just watched a news item of girls in Georgia being taken for virginity tests before being allowed to marry.

As far as I know some girls might be requested to take a virginity test by their fiancés.
What's wrong with it?

There body is there own business and no one elses.

Including her husband?

[Lizza]

You will always get a controversial reply from THAT person fitherin!! IGNORE it!

Lizza

[MaitreZ]

Just watched a news item of girls in Georgia being taken for virginity tests before being allowed to marry.
I TOTALY disagree with this practice as it is demeaning for the girls in every way. There body is there own business and no one elses.
SPEAK up if you agree.

I'm totally agree with you. Georgia is not a retarded Muslim country... or not ?

Hopefully in France (and Europe ?) these virginity test are absolutely not legal.

[fitherin]

the original report was covered by the BBC world service I thin . Georgia was only one of the countries who do this but at least 3 other countries who also practice this were referred to in the sub titles. As a plus point the doctor? also charges the lady in question for the letter to say she is in fact a virgin the amount charged can be more than a weeks wages !!!. may be worth checking the web where you are for the full story

S

[Pyra Gorgon]

I do not support the legalized approach to virginity testing by the STATE.

I feel it is between the woman and her future husband to decide whether or not she gets a virginity test. Past that, it is no one else's business, not even immediate family.

[virginitysaving]

Georgia is not a retarded Muslim country... or not ?

They are Orthodoxes. So, nothing about religion.

I do not support the legalized approach to virginity testing by the STATE.

It's not done by the state, but by their men.
So, that girls demand other men, that's not better than demanding another Earth.

[Pyra Gorgon]

@ Darla;

True. Until the culture and religious views shift their paradigm, those girls are stuck. Sucks to be them.

[Robert Pinkerton]

Big Issue about a Little Tissue?

Excerpt from ABBOTT, Elizabeth: A History of Celibacy, New York (Scribner: 2000), Chapter 7 ("Celibacy as Womanly Duty"), pp. 258-59

... a wealthy man's daughter used to be his chattel and, as such, a vehicle for distributing his land or other holdings through a dowry or for acquiring property through a bride price. Chastity, as evidence of the pure and pristine nature of the goods, was at the forefront of qualities necessary in the bride-as-merchandise.
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Here is a brief breakdown of the most important considerations underlying this fixation on virginity. First, the bride's chaste maidenhood carries several important guarantees for her husband: (1) that the children she conceives -- at least the first one -- will be his; (2) That she has not dishonored him by allowing another man to take her maidenhead and have intimate knowledge of her body; (3) that by refraining from sexual activity, she has demonstrated the likelihood of marital fidelity; (4) that by obeying the dictates of her relatives, her culture and her religion, she has proved she is dutiful and likely to submit as well to her husband's authority; and (5) that by coming to her husband unburdened by a child, her dowry and her future labor will be devoted exclusively to the new family he and she have just founded.

The bride's family and in-laws also benefit, because (6) her virginity enables her family to negotiate favorable marriage terms; (7) she has shamed niether her own nor her new husband's family by acquiring a bad reputation; and (8) she has not offended her religion's strictures against premarital sex, bringing down on her family's head the wrath of offended deities.

COMMENTARY: In the book cited supra, Abbott uses chastity as a straight-across one-for-one synonym for celibacy. The reader is invited to see that for himself or herself.
Boldface emphasis is supplied.

Bride-as-merchandise: Consider the inventory of pejoratives which stigmatize an unmarried woman who is sexually active, as cheap.

Item #3: Can this also be read as, minimally interested in sexual activity -- enough to get pregnant by her husband, but not at all much after that? To which this leads, if the husband has resources enough, is the situation of a wife for children and status and a mistress or Concubine for satisfaction of sexual needs -- a situation wherein the man dishonors all women involved; and by his adultery inflicts an insult upon his own honor.

Item #7: Respectfully submitted to this Forum is the dissident (heretical?) proposition that a woman who has demonstrated a serious liking for sexual activity (as counterposed to and as over against sodomy aut per os aut per anum) and who, at marriage, assumes the Belt for her husband under Strict Rule "played" straight to the last millimeter, is more honorable with him than is the cold fish virgin at marriage because she is scared of or seriously dislikes -- tolerating it only as means to the end of motherhood -- sex.

[Kellymac3]

And what kind of 'virginity tests' are they performing?
There is absolutely no way you can tell if a female is a virgin.
Sorry to burst that bubble......