Do you think you have made your point now?
"calm down dear"....................I still disagree with you.
Lizza
Neoprene? Silicone? LIners
Re: Neoprene? Silicone? LIners
GORGAN!
Do you think you have made your point now?
"calm down dear"....................I still disagree with you.
Lizza
Do you think you have made your point now?
"calm down dear"....................I still disagree with you.
Lizza
Re: Neoprene? Silicone? LIners
Regarding the wearing of stainless steel on skin, I think the answer is somewhere in between. Some of the links Lissa provides refer to toxicity when the metal is within the body / has access to an open part of the body, or else welding and fumes during the manufacture of stainless steel, things that would be expected to increase risk. Concentrations of metals within stainless steel also vary, as does individual susceptibility.
This document provides an interesting review: http://www.ttl.fi/en/publications/Elect ... _steel.pdf
One of its conclusions is that "Based on the positive experiences of applying the release limits within EU, and on the basis of the studies referenced in this review, no sensitization classification is suggested for stainless steels with a nickel release <0.5 μg/cm 2 /week in artificial sweat (and <0.2 μg/cm 2 /week if used in piercing post assemblies)."
I'd be relatively confident about wearing stainless steel, but also recognize that risks (as with anything) cannot be completely eliminated, and individual factors may vary. If one has the option of reduced concentrations of nickel, all the better.
This document provides an interesting review: http://www.ttl.fi/en/publications/Elect ... _steel.pdf
One of its conclusions is that "Based on the positive experiences of applying the release limits within EU, and on the basis of the studies referenced in this review, no sensitization classification is suggested for stainless steels with a nickel release <0.5 μg/cm 2 /week in artificial sweat (and <0.2 μg/cm 2 /week if used in piercing post assemblies)."
I'd be relatively confident about wearing stainless steel, but also recognize that risks (as with anything) cannot be completely eliminated, and individual factors may vary. If one has the option of reduced concentrations of nickel, all the better.
Re: Neoprene? Silicone? LIners
Oh, and "cure" time. One factor that appears important is how long ago the stainless steel was produced. Risk appears to be highest in the first 30 days, and then drops significantly.
(It's probably also worth noting that neoprene and silicone may have comparable toxicity risk, and significantly less time in the field for us to know of any long-term risks from use this way)
I'd be very interested, then, in knowing if a liner can be dispensed with, i.e. if the comfort factor is relatively negligible.
(It's probably also worth noting that neoprene and silicone may have comparable toxicity risk, and significantly less time in the field for us to know of any long-term risks from use this way)
I'd be very interested, then, in knowing if a liner can be dispensed with, i.e. if the comfort factor is relatively negligible.